Archive for April, 2012

Essay Plan So Far…

Posted in Uncategorized on April 29, 2012 by trettfilms

Just watched Tim Burtons Batman (1989) and Billy Wilders Double Indemnity (1944) for my the essay of this project. Below are notes and plan ideas I noted down whilst watching. Some parts may not make much sense as I just noted it down so it would make sense to myself later:

Film Noir Essay Bullet Points- Batman and Double Indemnity


-Corruption (Eckheart works with joker)

ü  -Low key lighting

ü  -Chirascuro



-soundtrack (dark)

-Tim Burton often uses noir techniques

-Hard boiled dialogue.

-Lots of metaphors

-Femme Fatale

-Set design.

-Old fashioned fonts on credits

ü  -Corrupt, criminal driven city (both films open with this)


-Batman set in the 80s but 1930s style. Not set in certain decade?

-Bruce Wayne-confident, witty and successful (as is Walter Neff)

-Batman is not a modern noir but homage to classic noir

-Gotham noir comic series



-Batman is quite colourful despite noir lighting, DI is black and white.

-Batman has 80’s soundtrack (prince etc.)

ü  -Batman follows comic book style aswell as noir.

ü  -Double Indemnity has a voice over.

ü  -Venetion blind (even menitoned in dialogue) in DI

-Batman doesn’t strongly follow noir narrative structure.

-Batman feels quite cinematic and high budget.

-Vicky Vale isn’t intentional femme fatale, gets herself in more trouble than Bruce Wayne/Batman himself.

-Batman has comedy moments.

-Fake city (Gotham), DI is LA??

-Batman appears almost immortal unlike Walter Neff.

-More similarities with Wayne and Neff than Batman and Neff.

-Wanyne sometimes (purposely) appears clumsy and shy


History of Film Noir

Film noir in modern cinema

Background to Double Indemnity and Batman

Similarities of batman and DI

Differences of Batman



Props and Costumes

Posted in Uncategorized on April 18, 2012 by trettfilms

We’ve been looking into getting props and costumes which suit the characters.  Here are a few pictures:

This one is kind of self-explanatory. The PI would wear this. Probably with a loosened tie or undone bow tie.

I think this would work well if it was unbuttoned. In my mind the PI would look a little too suave if he was too well dressed. He’s supposed to look kind of down and depressed. If he has a done up tie and waist coat he may appear too confident and come off more like a James Bond character.


A Zippo lighter and cigarette case. These two are props to add character to the PI. A typical convention of film noir is that characters smoke. I think it would show a bit more to the PI’s depression if he is fiddling and staring at these objects.

This prop is very important to the plot of the film. The female who tells the pi about the murder of her husband (but says its her friend who did the killing) mentions that the angered husband broke a hand mirror that is very close to heart with her.  Her dropping the mirror infront of the PI is the big give away that she is the guilty one. I picked this up in a vintage store in Norwich for £8. It’s was a described as being from the 50s but I don’t know much about hand mirrors so I’m unsure if this was a bargin or not.

We’re yet to work out the sizes for the female actress so we have no costumes for her yet.

Things are looking up and moving forward!


Pitch, story development and title

Posted in Uncategorized on April 16, 2012 by trettfilms

Our final pitch went very well, we showed our location for the film which is a bar in which group member Eli Warne works, I previously helped him film there for the last unit and I think it would be perfect for our film. The location is not open to the public until the evening so there is little chance of disturbance.

We also showed a couple of examples of short films we had taken as inspiration. One of them was ‘Reign of Death’ starring Noel Clarke. It captures the visual style of film noir very well although I am not keen on the plot, its set in a world of flying cars and robots and at the end Clarke urinated on a robot; kinda weird.

For music we’re still deciding on if we should use public domain music from the era or get an original soundtrack produced in the style of 50’s Jazz.

During our tutorials with Justin, he helped us work out a plot that would fit into five minutes. In the end we changed the plot from the PI going through the film, solving the case and eventually finding clues to the murder pointing as the wife to him using his intuition skills  to work it out from slip ups in her story and her body language.  Also as the woman leaves she drops a hand mirror, mentioned her story which she tries to blag onto her “friend”.

We spent awhile trying to think of a title. Since the whole film is set in a bar we thought the idea of naming the film after the bar it set in would be interesting. We googled bars in New York to see if there was anything that caught our attention but eventually come to conclusion to simply name the film ‘Smith’s Bar’. The reason for this is because the woman in the film uses an alias to the PI to hide her real name and when people give fake names a common alias used is the name Smith.

We’ve still got a lot of work and hoping it all works out!


Pre-Production Part 2: Pre-pitch pitch

Posted in Uncategorized on April 12, 2012 by trettfilms

By the time it came preparing this more simple pitch we had a better idea of where we wanted to go with this. Caitlin had suggested we get Gary Diggines (who had a leading role in the film we produced for the 1st unit. See here: to play our leading PI.

The basic plot at the moment is a woman whose husband has been murdered tells the story to a (soon to be retired) private investigator. He begins to fall for her just as signs start to show of her being the murderer. We have not got too much further than this in actually developing what he finds out to point to her.

During the critique after pitching our film the main concern seemed to be if we would fit our plot into a five minute short. We explained how we intend on telling  the story through short flash backs. There will also be a voice over from the PI and even though a general rule of film making is show don’t tell we have to fit a lot into five minutes and a voice over from the protagonist is a recurring element in film noirs. Overall we received pretty good feedback from our pitch.

Genre Unit: Film Noir Pre-Production Blog Post 1

Posted in Uncategorized on April 11, 2012 by trettfilms

There was a lot of controversy of forming the groups for this unit. It had been decided that we pretty much group together with who we want to work with this. This didn’t work out as it was mistaken as picking for the football team strategy. Group leaders had been assigned and at the end of the day we all had to pick which group leader we wanted to work with. I am working with a couple of others from the narrative unit and a few people I haven’t worked with before.

A couple of days later we had a meeting at playhouse to decide what kind of genre, as this is a genre based unit, we were going to do for our project. It actually didn’t take long before we had decided on film noir. Everyone was a fan of films from this genre; its visual style, the hard boiled dialogue or were at least interested in this genre and wanted to know more about it. We discussed possible story outlines, possible locations and the best ways to achieve that unite noir style.